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A Seattle Weekly Hipster is the 40 old bald guy who asks the clerk at Barnes & Noble about some band that was featured in the Seattle Weekly. They always show up to Sleater Kinney shows wearing fanny packs. They aren't as much of an eyesore as, let's say, your stereotypical jock wearing a Brewers cap, but they can go fucking die anyway.

I agree with Brutaful Smile, 21+ shows are better than all-ages shows in every possible way.
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What's better than getting drunk with other "old people" and watching the Long Winters?

NOTHING.
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it really has nothing to do w/drinking or getting drunk. in fact drunk obnoxious people can completely ruin a show. i think it has more to do w/being around your peers. and for some of us are peers are older.
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esatnik wrote:They always show up to Sleater Kinney shows wearing fanny packs. They aren't as much of an eyesore as, let's say, your stereotypical jock wearing a Brewers cap, but they can go fucking die anyway.


At the risk of turning this Cattywampus style...FANNYPACK. Cred, yo?

(I stole that link from a friend. Don't tell.)
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Ben Folds/Tori Amos

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If you can't go to the Long Winters show on the 26th in Seattle because of the age thing, there's always Tori Amos/Ben Folds at Marymoor Park.
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A Brutaful Smile wrote:it really has nothing to do w/drinking or getting drunk. in fact drunk obnoxious people can completely ruin a show. i think it has more to do w/being around your peers. and for some of us are peers are older.


Obviously everyone has lost their sense of humor in these parts. Jebus.
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heather wrote:Obviously everyone has lost their sense of humor in these parts. Jebus.


Damn, c'mon, Heather. If you want the Postal Service lyrics, just buy the damn album already. SHEESH.

Oh god, I'm so confused.
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heather wrote:Obviously everyone has lost their sense of humor in these parts. Jebus.


actually i realized after i posted that that i had read what you posted wrong. when i read it later i was all 'oooooohhhh'...lol
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Save me, Jebus!
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esatnik wrote:The only good all-ages clubs that Seattle ever had, Velvet Elvis and RKCNDY (and possibly even the Paradox) are long gone. I don't remember seeing any of you snivelling brats there (obviously, or else they might still be in business)

All that I am saying is that punks these days talk a great deal but when it comes down to it you are all pretty lazy. In my day, we had a little something called initiative.... (yadda, yadda, yadda...)



esatnik...?

<img width=574 height=50 src=http://graphics.theonion.com/pics_3919/head_90s_punk.gif border="0" alt="'90s Punk Decries Punks Of Today" class="head">

BERKELEY, CA—Nineties punk Drew Tolbert, 29, expressed scorn Monday for the punks of today, denouncing them as "phony poseurs unworthy of the word 'punk.'" Complete story >
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The best place to see an all ages show is at the Showbox.

You can stand in the bar and have a drink with full and close view of the stage, and the shows aren't usually sold out like the one the night before featuring the same line-up.
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Punk music sucks. Always did and always will. Aside from a vinyl copy of "How Could Hell Be Any Worse?" by Bad Religion, I thought the whole scene was completely irrelevent. My philolsophy: if a teenager with pierced nuts can do it, then it isn't art? Dead Kennedys or Blink 182? Who cares? It all sounds like Eve 6 to me.
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esatnik wrote:Punk music sucks. Always did and always will.


It probably thinks you suck, too. So I guess it all works out.

eastnik wrote: I thought the whole scene was completely irrelevent.


The scene AND the music? What about the movement?

Damn, man. That's one hell of a slash-and-burn.
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I'm just sayin' that just because I like real music, and not that pussy glam shit, doesn't give all y'all the right to pigeonhole me. I ain't no "90's Punk" (in huge bold font) and I sure as hell don't own any Rancid tee-shirts.

However, I must admit that I agree 100% with the 29 year old "90's Punk" (from Skip's off-topic Onion link). Dumb-ass kids with frosted bangs and a $13 Hamburglar tee-shirts driving around with no arrest warrant in their parents lime green minivan are NOT punks.

Furthermore, although I would never classify myself as a "Punk", "Too Drunk To Fuck" is number 6 on my all time top 10 list of songs. Without the Dead Kennedys, Nirvana (Milk It) and The Wipers (D7) would have had no guitar chords to steal for their lame-ass records.
See ya. Suckas!
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because you cant be punk without arrest warrants
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meg wrote:Damn, c'mon, Heather. If you want the Postal Service lyrics, just buy the damn album already.



Woman, I TOLD you not to go mixing up message boards again. This is your last warning.
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eric said that they are playing two shows at the croc. a 21 and under show at like 7, and a 21 and over show later on that night. so everyone who is under go early and quit crying. they do as much as they can to play at venues where all their fans can go and enjoy as much as everyone else. and i don't know about you, i am pumped to see my bro play tomorrow night at the croc!!
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kramerface wrote:eric said that they are playing two shows at the croc. a 21 and under show at like 7, and a 21 and over show later on that night. so everyone who is under go early and quit crying. they do as much as they can to play at venues where all their fans can go and enjoy as much as everyone else. and i don't know about you, i am pumped to see my bro play tomorrow night at the croc!!


right, the show with clem snide - but when i checked the croc calendar recently it said that Dear John Letters were now playing that particular show. hmm? confusement.
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You're right! Does this mean the LW are no longer playing?!?!
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That show at the Crocodile in July (the 19th) with Clem Snide headlining, has *both* the Long Winters and Dear John Letters opening up. This is great news, as I love all 3 of these bands, and the 2 locals in particular. And while I'm at it, I gotta add they compliment each other remarkably well.

So I'm 29 (or I will be on July 19), and I'm headed for the all-ages version of this bill. Why? While I can see the appeal of preferring to rub elbows with folks yer own age, and certainly no one wants to feel old, all-ages shows are better.

hence:

    The youngsters are almost always more stoked to be there than their jaded, chatty 21+ counterparts.
    They pay attention instead of yakking thru the whole set.
    They smoke less.
    They're often more polite.
    They're obviously not drinking (legally), so they're aren't drunk and obnoxious and loud.
    The shows are less crowded.
    Afterward, you have time to go to another, 21+ show, or get a drink with a friend, or go home and listen to Long Winters records!


..and there you have it. Don't think I want everyone to agree; by all means do yer own thing. I'm just saying.
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