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I appreciate you want to ensure great quality for everyone, but I've always used direct Nero copying for audio and video, and it seems to be working fine. Are you really sure it's necessary to have special dvd and audio ripping software (as in 1. and 2.)? In my book it might deter potential branches from signing up. I for one know I don't have the time to do any of that shit, and dealing with new programs I don't know and cannot predict the outcome of seems more of a risc than using the program I always use...
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Unfortunately, Exact Audio Copy is considered manditory amongst virtually every lossless trading network. It's the only CD ripping program, as far as I can tell, that allows you thorough customizable options for your drive (most important of which is the abilithy to set the read/write offset) and runs CRC Tests to verify a perfect copy.

Teqnilogik.com's Exact Audio Copy Setup guide is a great place to read about how to accurately setup the program. It's also much shorter than it looks, since for the purposes of this tree, you can skip the entire Setting Compression Options section of the guide.

The Coaster Factory has a section about what Offsets are, how to fix them, and why they're so important to fix. Especially when trading live audio from person to person.

It's really quite small to download, easy to set-up (especially with the above guides giving you step-by-step instructions), and intuitive to use. Since the branches shouldn't be expecting the discs for three weeks to a month, that should be plenty of time to find half an hour somewhere to read over the guide and setup a small program. If you don't have time to do that, you certainly won't have time to burn twenty-five discs for five seeds. I'm sorry to be a stickler on this one, but if I were to release an MD5 checksum of the original files, everyone on every level of the tree should be able to check their files against it and find they have a perfect copy. You wouldn't expect any less from a CD you buy at the local record store, and you shouldn't expect any less from digital tape trading.

I don't care what DVD ripping software you use (seeing as both the audio and video components are already compromised in encoding), as long as it's proven reliable to you. I gave suggestions for what I've used, and found to be easy to use and accurate.

A Tape Tree is supposed to be fun -- and I want this to be. But I also don't want Leafs getting bum copies because a branch didn't set up their drive to work properly (which to me, seems about the equivilent of buying a 5.1 stereo system and only hooking up 4 speakers). Does that make sense?

PS. If necessary, I'm willing to go through both of the guides myself and paraphrase them down to only the most essential steps and nuggets of information. If that's what it takes, that's what will get done.
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Here's a file where I put two clips of the recording side by side.

The original runs for the first 8 seconds.
The EQ runs from 9 to 20 seconds.
The original runs from 21 to 33 seconds.
The EQ runs from 34 to 45 seconds.

As you can see, the EQ'd brightens up the recording and brings John's voice to the front a bit. The volume has been significantly raised on both samples. To compare how much louder the EQ version is, listen to the EQ'd version next to the original FLAC you may have already downloaded.
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sour29 wrote:Unfortunately, Exact Audio Copy is considered manditory amongst virtually every lossless trading network. It's the only CD ripping program, as far as I can tell, that allows you thorough customizable options for your drive (most important of which is the abilithy to set the read/write offset) and runs CRC Tests to verify a perfect copy.

(...)If you don't have time to do that, you certainly won't have time to burn twenty-five discs for five seeds. (...)

A Tape Tree is supposed to be fun -- and I want this to be. But I also don't want Leafs getting bum copies because a branch didn't set up their drive to work properly (which to me, seems about the equivilent of buying a 5.1 stereo system and only hooking up 4 speakers). Does that make sense?

wow, customizable options for my drive, never knew anything about that kinda stuff. Consider that something I learned today!

I have to admit that I'm the kinda person who thinks a 5.1 stereo system would no doubt be very cool, but hey, my 40-year-old speakers seem to play the music pretty fine so why bother... (actually, we had to say goodbye to those speakers last year because they finally gave out. And it hurt!!).

I will also admit that I was doubtful if I have the time to be a branch, but wanted to see if I could act as bencher, in case there aren't enough branches. Will have to be a leaf now, full stop. But I will look into that whole drive customizing thing someday.
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Post by sour29 »

Just got the new DVD in the mail. Looks awesome -- a clip will be up in the Treehouse by tonight. The DVD runs approximately 55min and covers the set right up until the end of Fire Island, AK.

Now...I have had exactly two people sign up for this tree... is this because absolutely no one is interested, or because everyone signed up with the e-mail address that may or may not be working?
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whoops... signing up right now, thanks for the reminder!
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Post by sour29 »

Make that three! :)

New clip is up in the Treehouse.
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perhaps it might be useful to change the pdf-link in the first post of this thread to the new http://thelongwinters.rawkpaperscissors.com/tapetree/ link. And in that document, perhaps change the mailaddress to the one that works for sure. Just a thought to make it easier for tha people.

ps I did my bit to promote this in the Treehouse.
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I signed up...but I have no idea if it made it to your email...

...if you've got an albuquerque branch, that's me :)
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Got you. :) I knew I should've asked for log-in names, too. Didn't want to deny non-members for signing up, though.
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An update has been made to the first post in this thread considering the lack of participation, and a (really short) list of persons from whom I have received an entry form from. I'm hoping to triple the number of participants in the next four days. I don't care if they're all leafs -- we have enough branches now. :) Sign up for FREE* Long Winters cds and dvds, all! :)

*plus the cost of s&h and blank media.
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the price is always right when it's FREE!!! (;-D) count me in...
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jeebus, just to be safe I sent a pm and I will post here that I want in, since obviously my e-mail didn't make it across the ocean.
Did I mention yet that I want in?
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Gah. Alright. I'm going to say PM me if you want in. I don't even know how many e-mails never made it to me. :(
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18 hours left to sign up. Don't forget to PM me if you want in.
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did you get my PM???
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I did! :)

But you forgot to mention whether it was for Leaf or Branch!
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Code: Select all

L. Rijnierse
HJ Wizell
E. Hadley
R. Olsen
M. Gaubinger
M. Dennis
T. Wirt
S. Hogue


If you are not on the above list, you're one of those people who's e-mails got lost, and never found their way to me. I need you to PM me ASAP, as the Tree sign-up ends tonight, and I need to get this tree organized and ready before the weekend (as my new job starts next week. Yay! :( )

Happy Halloween, all!
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Post by sour29 »

Alright, sign up is now closed.

In an attempt to equalize the work load amongst each of the seed/branches, each branch will have one international leaf. Me, I have three, so try not to complain. ;)

Furthermore, I have taken on one leaf myself. Admittedly, it was not picked randomly, but rather based on geographical proximity. Speaking of which, I did the same for the branches and the leaves; however, both branches are on the western half of the USA... I did the best I could.

What to do now:
If you're a branch, you should have an e-mail from me by the middle of tomorrow.

If you're a leaf, you must e-mail your branch immediately, requesting the address to which to send your SASE and blank media. The branch will respond to you within a couple of days (I expect) outlining any specific suggestions or requests they may have (ie. "my CD-writer tends to eat Maxell CD-Rs, so please buy another brand", or "please do not send your envelope and media for two weeks").

If you work at Barsuk and want a copy, shoot me a PM (and be prepared to beg... j/k).

If you are John Roderick, your copy will be sent out to Barsuk in a couple of weeks. Contact me if you would like me to send extras for Eric, Jon', or Nabil.

Otherwise, HERE is the tree formation. Replace AT's with @ and DOT's with a period, rinse, lather, and repeat as necessary.

If there are any last minute questions or concerns, feel free to post them here. Let's have fun!
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One question... is the Shakira porn movie part of the tree? I only ask so I know how many blank DVDs to send.
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