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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 8:19 pm
by grant
Ever do any Lacanian film crit?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:39 am
by miss michaela dee
Well, I did read Lacan in school -- though I can't remember if I ever really incorporated much of his work into my papers. (Maybe it was in that Hitchcock class -- or when we did Bergman?)

To be honest, I'm more of a Walter Benjamin girl. I was never much good at teasing meaning out of things with items from the psychoanalytic tool box.

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 11:38 am
by grant
So where's the "aura" in a film?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 12:42 pm
by miss michaela dee
Darling, I must get a meal in me before I answer that.

But, actually, Benjamin discusses cinema and aura *somewhere* in "The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction" (*picture me thinking hard and then resorting to Google)

Aha! See sections X-XIII:
http://www.student.math.uwaterloo.ca/~c ... jamin.html

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 9:03 am
by omphale
Hmmm, wrong thread...

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 9:26 am
by Liesbeth
isn't it funny how a topic can move from one line quotes to 4 whole chapters of film analysis.

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 11:26 am
by grant
He seems locate it outside the film itself, in the offscreen lives of the film idols. Hmm. That might be true for a certain kind of Hollywood product, but doesn't say much about, say, "28 Days Later" or "Igby Goes Down" (both films with well-known actors, but not quite in the Hollywood star system).
And what would Benjamin make of Stan Brakhage?

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 9:47 am
by grant
On the other hand, his whole thesis is that the reproduced art is the aura-less art. Which makes me wonder if aura is really a part of art at all, and not some related phenomenon. Like "preciousness".

I suppose he'd argue that solitary, surviving prints of films (like some of Charlie Chaplin's pictures) kept cloistered in film libraries would have something approaching aura.

I didn't get to do this yet, so

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:27 am
by Harvey Winters
"The shitty thing about Atheism, is you have no one to blame, but yourself"-Me

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:29 pm
by nwheather
Bwaha, I was just about to ask how many bonus points you get for quoting yourself...how many do you get for quoting your own song?

Everyone knows if you hear nothing, you'll never have to listen to a lie



Non-song:

We are driven apart more often by our similarities than by our differences.


Ignorance may be bliss to the ignorant, but to everyone else, it's just annoying.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:10 pm
by Harvey Winters
nwheather wrote:Everyone knows if you hear nothing, you'll never have to listen to a lie


I'm stealing that, and since I'm in NY, you're helpless to stop me...
(Unless I bring another one of my children to Seattle for a Vera show)

I had a similar one:

"Although I knew it to be a lie,
it was the most beautiful lie I'd ever heard"...

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:25 am
by nwheather
Harvey Winters wrote:I'm stealing that, and since I'm in NY, you're helpless to stop me...
(Unless I bring another one of my children to Seattle for a Vera show)


*flails helplessly whilst being stolen from*

It's not as though I could make it to Seattle, either.

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:00 pm
by the new girl
"It's not living a lie if you're not living at all."-Aqueduct

Fits the recent them of the thread, could be my bio in one line, and has been stuck in my head for WEEKS (not entirely a bad thing). Saw them last Wednesday and that's only made it worse in a way, but 'twas a damn fine performance (even if 2 of the 3 openers were really, really, really bad).

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:06 pm
by A Brutaful Smile
I got it...

"She rocked!"