the new math wrote:for the most part, all of these live recordings are starting out as DAT, minidisc or hard drive recordings. mini disc data is compressed as it's recorded and the fidelity is compromised right then and there, but the other two formats have the fidelity he wants.
This is all true. However, with the Long Winters having a (generally) younger fanbase, Minidisc (being the most affordable of taping options) is likely the most common of formats it's going to be taped in. I've heard some pretty damn good Minidisc recordings, myself--some that compare to DAT and Harddrive. I'd argue that a MD with good microphones is by far greater than a DAT with shitty ones. But I'm off my point here: I'm not going to argue that MD recordings are compressed (because they are), but I'm going to argue why encourage compressing (and thus, compromising) them more than they already are?
This is true, but (excuse me if I'm wrong) the Long Winters still have a smaller fanbase than a lot of trading communities and I would argue that not everyone who tapes the Long Winters is going to post MP3s here on this message board. In fact, I can say from personal experience that my buddy and I taped the very first set I saw the band play (05/29/03) without having heard anything about the Long Winters at all. We were there taping Nada Surf, and took a chance to spend an extra MD on a band we didn't know. I think this type of taping happens more often than people may realize. I enjoyed the show, but I didn't rush to TheLongWinters.com and post MP3 samples looking for trades. Now, TheLongWinters have been playing some pretty high profile shows. Prolific tours with Nada Surf, Death Cab For Cutie, and SXSW to name a few off of the top of my head. I can't help but wonder how many tapers were at those shows to see the other bands, but taped your set as well? But, for whatever reason they may have, haven't advertised possession of the tape. An MP3 trading community is not going to encourage the release of such tapes. That's why I'm encouraging mail trades (alongside lossless file transfers)--to encourage trades between communities that otherwise would never happen.if one wants, they can obtain the master recording of a particular show with a little bit of legwork. i've seen it done time and time again on other message boards, where someone posts mp3s of a live show and then offers up a CDR copy if someone mails him an envelope with postage and blank CDR.
Definately not. Which is why I encourage Merlin to post the best tracks of the best recordings. If people decide they like what they want, they will start by picking out the ones they've heard from the website--the one's that sound best--and begin to enter the trading community.besides, it's not THAT hard to tell whether or not mp3s with decent bitrates originate from really good source material.
if throwing a live show up on the site (in a format that is easily downloaded by the majority) introduces more people to the long winters, and spawns a larger community of fans (who in turn boost attendance at shows), what is the problem?
The problem is putting up whole shows in MP3 tends to (almost always) upset the Tapers. Tapers get upset with a band's release policy, they stop taping their shows. So, your MP3ing works wonderfully for a few months (while you have an older archive to cull from), but then the well becomes drained. Without tapers to tape the shows, you're not left with a lot to MP3 (unless, of course, you start recording your own shows through the soundboard and keeping those for the site). There will always be the occassional die-hard fan who will tape shows, but those die-hards tend to prefer to go to the shows and enjoy themselves without the worries of taping. Also, unless they already have plenty of taping experience, they are going to be of lesser quality (a tape is, afterall, only as good as the taper).
I argue that a lossless trading community encourages not only new fans, but new tapers. And that is not a bad thing.